Legislature(2007 - 2008)SENATE FINANCE 532

04/11/2008 09:00 AM Senate FINANCE


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* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
+ HB 366 PFD: EXECUTION /DISCLOSURE OF APPROPS TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+ SB 160 MANDATORY UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+ HB 65 PERSONAL INFORMATION & CONSUMER CREDIT TELECONFERENCED
Scheduled But Not Heard
+= HB 50 CHILD PLACEMENT COMPACT TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+= HB 332 PRE-ELEMENTARY SCHOOL PROGRAMS TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSHB 332(FIN)(title am) Out Comte.
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
+= HB 2 VOCATIONAL EDUC ACCOUNT TELECONFERENCED
Moved SCS HB 2(FIN) Out of Committee
+= HB 226 REPEAL TERMINATION OF STEP PROGRAM TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
HOUSE BILL NO. 366 am                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     "An Act relating to an exemption  from public disclosure                                                                   
     of  certain  appropriations   from  the  dividend  fund;                                                                   
     relating to  execution upon permanent fund  dividends by                                                                   
     civilian  process servers  using electronic  procedures;                                                                   
     amending Rule  89, Alaska Rules of Civil  Procedure; and                                                                   
     providing for an effective date."                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HARRY  CRAWFORD,  Sponsor, explained  that  a                                                                   
number of years ago the law was  changed so that incarcerated                                                                   
felons  and  multiple  misdemeanants   could  not  collect  a                                                                   
Permanent Fund  Dividend.  Unfortunately, it  prevented their                                                                   
children  who  were owed  child  support from  receiving  it.                                                                   
This bill  ensures that those  children will not lose  out on                                                                   
their child support.   Most children of  incarcerated parents                                                                   
have  a child  support  order that  is $50  per  month.   The                                                                   
majority of the time the parents'  only assets are the PFD's.                                                                   
The bill  also provides for  electronic delivery of  writs by                                                                   
the Department of Revenue.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
10:35:58 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman asked if the  bill would direct the PFD of a                                                                   
parent  that is incarcerated  to the  child.   Representative                                                                   
Crawford explained  that it would  require the  Department of                                                                   
Revenue to estimate  the amount of the child's  PFD and allow                                                                   
the child  to receive  child support payments.   The  bill is                                                                   
subject to appropriation by the legislature.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Thomas wondered  about the order of  dispersal of the                                                                   
PFD for incarceration  costs to the Department  of Correction                                                                   
and the  Department of Public  Safety.  He wondered  how much                                                                   
would   be   left   over   for    child   support   payments.                                                                   
Representative  Crawford replied  that the  bill simply  puts                                                                   
the  children  back  on  the  list  to  be  able  to  receive                                                                   
payments.  It does not make an appropriation.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Crawford  reported  that  this  year  it  was                                                                   
estimated  that   there  would  be  about  $16   million  for                                                                   
incarceration  costs.    He  said   there  were  about  5,000                                                                   
children,  of  which  about  2,000 would  be  eligible.    He                                                                   
thought that there would be money left over.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
10:39:07 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
JERRY   BURNETT,   DIRECTOR,   DIVISION   OF   ADMINISTRATIVE                                                                   
SERVICES,  DEPARTMENT  OF  REVENUE,   reported  on  currently                                                                   
calculated PFD felon  funds.  There were about  10,188 people                                                                   
who  did  not qualify  for  their  dividend  as a  result  of                                                                   
incarceration, which  represented about $16,800 in  the FY 09                                                                   
budget.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
AT-EASE:       10:39:57 AM                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
RECONVENED:    10:40:47 AM                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Burnett continued to explain  that currently the money is                                                                   
all appropriated to the Department  of Corrections and to the                                                                   
Department of  Public Safety's  Council on Domestic  Violence                                                                   
and Sexual Assault.  With the  passage of the bill, PFD felon                                                                   
funds would potentially  be available for grants  to children                                                                   
of incarcerated parents.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Burnett reported  that next year when the  FY 2010 budget                                                                   
is compiled,  the Department  of Revenue  would estimate  how                                                                   
many children  are not  in foster  care or  are wards  of the                                                                   
state  and whose  parents would  have received  a PFD  absent                                                                   
their  incarceration, and  bring  a budget  request for  that                                                                   
amount.   He guessed  that next year's  felon funds  would be                                                                   
about $21 million  to $22 million.  He said that  half of the                                                                   
felons who  are incarcerated have  child support orders.   It                                                                   
is estimated  that next year  less than 2,000  children would                                                                   
be eligible  for the  support, which  would require  about $4                                                                   
million to replace garnished dividends.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman  said the  fiscal  notes  show zero.    Mr.                                                                   
Burnett said  they were zero because  the effect of  the bill                                                                   
only allows the appropriations  from the PFD felon fund to be                                                                   
made.  The fiscal notes do not show appropriations.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
10:43:52 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Thomas asked  if the  legislature would  appropriate                                                                   
money for  purposes of child support.   He wondered  how much                                                                   
would be available  after the other appropriations  are made.                                                                   
Mr.  Burnett  explained that  the  monies  can be  spent  for                                                                   
anything  on the  list without  disclosure  on the  PFD as  a                                                                   
reduction  to peoples'  dividends.   The  bill  allows for  a                                                                   
specific  appropriation  request for  a  child support  grant                                                                   
program.  He related that the  appropriation request could be                                                                   
made in several ways.  He gave  an example of how it could be                                                                   
done.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
10:45:47 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Crawford  explained  that the bill  allows child  support                                                                   
payments to be back on the list.   No one expected to pay for                                                                   
items  in the  felon's  fund  to come  off  of  the backs  of                                                                   
children.  It was an unintended consequence.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Olson asked if the incarcerated  person has access to                                                                   
the money.  Representative Crawford said they did not.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Senator Thomas said he was supportive of the bill.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Representative Crawford  explained that child  support orders                                                                   
are  number one  in line  for  garnished wages  in all  other                                                                   
instances.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman noted  that  the fiscal  notes  need to  be                                                                   
cleared up.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
HB  366  was   heard  and  HELD  in  Committee   for  further                                                                   
consideration.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
10:49:06 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 366 am                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     "An Act relating to an exemption  from public disclosure                                                                   
     of  certain  appropriations   from  the  dividend  fund;                                                                   
     relating to  execution upon permanent fund  dividends by                                                                   
     civilian  process servers  using electronic  procedures;                                                                   
     amending Rule  89, Alaska Rules of Civil  Procedure; and                                                                   
     providing for an effective date."                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman  referred  to  the  revised  Department  of                                                                   
Corrections fiscal  note which has  been changed from  a zero                                                                   
note to  an indeterminate  note.  He  referred to  the second                                                                   
paragraph  on  the fiscal  note  which  states, "In  FY  2009                                                                   
approximately $9.1  million of the $31 million  Inmate Health                                                                   
Care budget  is PFD  Criminal Funds.   If  in the future  the                                                                   
legislature  chooses  to  reduce  the current  level  of  PFD                                                                   
Criminal   Funds   appropriated    to   the   Department   of                                                                   
Corrections,  a  General  Fund  appropriation  equal  to  the                                                                   
reduction would  be requested to maintain inmate  health care                                                                   
services."  It would be up to  the legislature to decide what                                                                   
would be appropriated annually.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:45:31 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Crawford  estimated the amount  of felon funds                                                                   
for the  coming year to  be $21 to  $22 million.   The amount                                                                   
for inmate care will increase,  but there should be more than                                                                   
enough  funds to  handle  the child  support  request.   That                                                                   
amount  can't  be known  until  the  number of  children  are                                                                   
accounted  for.   He maintained  that  it could  be about  $4                                                                   
million and there should be enough available.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:46:38 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Elton MOVED  to REPORT HB 366 am from  Committee with                                                                   
individual  recommendations  and accompanying  fiscal  notes.                                                                   
There being NO OBJECTION, it was so ordered.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
HB   366   am   was  REPORTED   from   Committee   with   "no                                                                   
recommendation"  and with  a  new indeterminate  fiscal  note                                                                   
from  the   Department  of   Corrections  and  a   previously                                                                   
published zero fiscal note from the Department of Revenue.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:47:35 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                

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